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		<title>It&#8217;s Hard to Find a Good (Reno) Man</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Turns out, we&#8217;re not the only Canadians who want to get their tax credits and rebates, too for all their new renos! There is a waiting list for the best renovators out there.
Canadian TV reno guru Mike Holmes writes about the importance of waiting for the right one &#8211; in The National Post. He expects [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-877" title="Ready to work" src="http://www.ecorenovate.ca/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/renovator-300x225.jpg" alt="Ready to work" width="240" height="180" />Turns out, we&#8217;re not the only Canadians who want to get their tax credits and rebates, too for all their new renos! There is a waiting list for the best renovators out there.</p>
<p>Canadian TV reno guru<a title="National Post column" href="http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=1663676" target="_blank"> Mike Holmes </a>writes about the importance of waiting for the right one &#8211; in <em>The National Post</em>. He expects to see a drop in the &#8220;grey market&#8221; (i.e. paying someone under the table for contracting work) because now folks like us can get the <a href="http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/sgmnts/hmwnr/hrtc/clcltng-eng.html" target="_blank">HRTC </a>money back, so there is savings to be had there. He notes, I think wisely, that it was never a good idea to pay cash, but to use a &#8220;legitimate&#8221; contractor or else&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;That leaves you with the other guy: the guy who works for cash and who&#8217;s willing to cut his rate and cut a deal. But don&#8217;t kid yourself: Things cost what they cost &#8211; and don&#8217;t think for a minute any contractor is taking those cash discounts and deals out of his bottom line&#8230; That discount is coming out of your job, somewhere.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, considering that Doug and I want a good job to be done on our renos, we are going to opt for the squeaky-clean &#8216;white&#8217; market and pay by cheque, including the GST (and soon to be <a href="http://www.ecorenovate.ca/2009/09/14/the-hst-is-coming/" target="_self">Harmonized Sales Tax</a><strong> </strong>- but we are going to beat that rap!!)</p>
<p>We want to <a title="Government suggestions for choosing contractors" href="http://www.cmhc.ca/en/co/renoho/refash/refash_009.cfm" target="_blank">find the RIGHT man</a> for our eco-reno jobs, and you know what they [women)] say&#8230; It&#8217;s hard to find a good man!</p>
<p>In the meantime, Doug is taking it upon himself to do reno work:</p>
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<li>It took him 2.5 months (just ended last week) to drywall the <a href="http://www.ecorenovate.ca/2010/01/14/the-spray-team-part-ii/" target="_self">newly insulated basement bedroom</a> of his teen son &#8211; as well as install the laminate floor, build a large closet and install mirror doors, etc.</li>
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<li>He spent today installing a low-flush <a href="http://www.ecorenovate.ca/2010/02/18/eco-toilets-now-theres-an-iphone-app/" target="_self">ecoEnergy-rebate-worthy toilet </a>in the basement bathroom, which &#8211; as the tiles flew up from the floor &#8211; will no doubt now lead to the full-on gutting and rebuilt of that room. (We do have the new vanity cupboard/sink, shower stall etc. <a href="http://www.ecorenovate.ca/2010/01/26/race-to-the-hrtc-deadline-and-we-made-it/" target="_self">sitting in the garage</a> the last six weeks!)</li>
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		<title>Hell is Other People&#8230;Quoting!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[French existentialist Jean-Paul Sartre famously wrote, &#8220;Hell is other people&#8221; (L&#8217;enfer c&#8217;est  les autres) which is, in my opinion a bit harsh. Or so I thought until I entered the wild-west world of contractor quotes!
The hellish task: Trying to get a uniform answer as to A) the best way to insulate the three levels of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>French existentialist Jean-Paul Sartre famously wrote, &#8220;Hell is other people&#8221; (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Exit" target="_blank"><em>L&#8217;enfer c&#8217;est  les autres</em></a>) which is, in my opinion a bit harsh. Or so I thought until I entered the wild-west world of contractor quotes!</p>
<p><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-633" title="Hell sign" src="http://www.ecorenovate.ca/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Hell-sign-150x150.jpg" alt="Hell sign" width="130" height="110" />The hellish task: Trying to get a uniform answer as to A) the best way to insulate the three levels of our home, and B) a cost quote. Here&#8217;s but a sampling of the confusion:</p>
<p>One insulator has quoted us the following for our attic insulation work:</p>
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<p style="margin: 0pt;">Insulate attic, including installation of access hatch: $2,000 &#8211; $4,500 <em>depending on situation</em><strong>*</strong></p>
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<p style="margin: 0pt;">A second insulator has quoted us the following amount, for the same job:</p>
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<p style="margin: 0pt;">Attic insulation R-50 includes the hatch and sloped ceilings: $1,571.78</p>
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<p style="margin: 0pt;"><em><strong>(*</strong>something tells me that our &#8220;situation&#8221; with a drafty &#8217;50s home that wasn&#8217;t built to code will not be at the</em> low <em>end of this quote!)</em></p>
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<p style="margin: 0pt;">A third insulator tells me his company only spray or blows in polyurethane &#8211; then advices me to use batt insulation (e.g. pink fiberglass) instead in the basement!</p>
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<p>Two contractors question why we think we need insulation level of R-24 in the basement, since it is way above code (R-10) But R-24 is what it says in our <a href="http://www.ecorenovate.ca/2009/08/24/the-home-audit-report-arrives/" target="_self">home energy audit</a> (and that is what the federal government has received)  so&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Photo ID of your Insulation Needs is NOT Acceptable</strong></p>
<p style="margin: 0pt;">I phone our <a href="http://www.ecorenovate.ca/2009/07/14/who-will-audit-our-home/" target="_self">home energy auditor</a>, Cliff, who confirms that it does have to be R-24; he adds that &#8220;code&#8221; in Ontario is really outdated. Then, since I have him on the phone, I confirm with him that we will be taking photos of what the &#8220;mystery&#8221; insulation is like when our attic hatch is created by the insulators.</p>
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<p>Nuh-uh. Cliff says, oh about that&#8230; the government will not give us any rebate money if the auditor does not physically see for himself what the state of <a href="http://www.ecorenovate.ca/2009/10/29/our-attic-needs-a-hatch-what-attic/" target="_self">attic insulation</a> is first, before any work is done! Great to know<em> now</em>!</p>
<p><strong>Wooing the Home Energy Auditor</strong></p>
<p>And because my husband Doug didn&#8217;t smash through the ceiling to show Cliff this <a href="http://www.ecorenovate.ca/2009/08/11/home-energy-audit/" target="_self">when the home audit happened </a>- back in August, I wasn&#8217;t home &#8211; now we won&#8217;t cash in on a job that will cost us upwards of $2,000.</p>
<p>I cannot accept this, so I convince Cliff to drop by next week to poke his head up there; he says there is a chance he can do it but can&#8217;t guarantee what time given his crazy schedule. (Apparently the public is waking up to the $ opps of home energy audits.)</p>
<p>Being impatient and curious by nature, I decide to check out the attic myself right away. As luck would have it, another contractor &#8211; the sixth!! &#8211; was about to arrive at my home to quote, so I did some smashing with him watching (I don&#8217;t think he wanted to get involved, beyond holding my wheeled chair while I climbed up.)</p>
<p><strong><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-675" title="My opening to our attic space" src="http://www.ecorenovate.ca/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Attic-Access1-150x150.jpg" alt="My opening to our attic space" width="150" height="150" />Smash Through and All Shall be Revealed</strong></p>
<p>It was as simple as moving a ceiling panel, by hand, and smashing through this spongy board &#8211; not wood &#8211; again by hand. And, lo and behold &#8211; there was insulation! (See my hatch hack job, right.)</p>
<p>The insulator dude stuck in a long stick and estimated that we have at least 6 inches of fibreglass in there. We cannot tell how far it goes across the home, and hence the need for me to smash a bigger attic hole today.</p>
<div id="attachment_672" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 238px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-672" title="Crawlspace-Access" src="http://www.ecorenovate.ca/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Crawlspace-Access-300x300.jpg" alt="Crawlspace access in upstairs bedroom knee wall" width="228" height="228" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Crawlspace access in upstairs bedroom knee wall</p></div>
<p>Oh, and while he was here, I decided to pry open the mini-door in the the <a href="../2009/11/11/insulation-contractor-quotes/" target="_self">knee wall </a>in the smaller upstairs bedroom&#8230; an opening that every contractor/insulator has seen. (See photo, right) It took me 2 minutes to open, using a ordinary dinner knife, and voila! There was fibreglass insulation, properly sealed on the outside with vapour barrier and everything!</p>
<p>So now, after I create a bigger attic opening with a crowbar today, I&#8217;m going to break through the knee wall in the other upstairs bedroom to see what&#8217;s there. It doesn&#8217;t have a pre-existing framework/door way in that knee wall, so likely that room hasn&#8217;t been insulated&#8230;</p>
<p>But hey, who knows&#8230; If my experience has shown me anything this week, it&#8217;s that you don&#8217;t know what previous owners have done to your home unless you call them up, or break through your walls and ceilings.</p>
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